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7/6/2008 12:01:01 AM
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Alan Heuer
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Anybody else here vote? I submitted my online ballot earlier this evening. It was my 35th consecutive year of voting. Here are the gory details.
Best Novel
1. Halting State Charles Stross
2. Brasyl Ian McDonald
3. The Yiddish Policemen's Union Michael Chabon
4. Rollback Robert J. Sawyer
5. The Last Colony John Scalzi
Best Novella
1. "Stars Seen Through Stone" Lucius Shepard
2. "Memorare" Gene Wolfe
3. "Recovering Apollo 8" Kristine Kathryn Rusch
4. "Fountain of Age" Nancy Kress
5. "All Seated on the Ground" Connie Willis
Best Novelette
1. "The Cambist and Lord Iron: A Fairy Tale of Economics" Daniel Abraham
2. "The Merchant and the Alchemist's Gate" Ted Chiang
3. "Dark Integers" Greg Egan
4. "Glory" Greg Egan
5. "Finisterra" David Moles
Best Short Story
1. "Last Contact" Stephen Baxter
2. "Tideline" Elizabeth Bear
3. "A Small Room in Koboldtown" Michael Swanwick
4. "Who's Afraid of Wolf 359?" Ken MacLeod
5. "Distant Replay" Mike Resnick
edited by Alan Heuer on 7/6/2008
edited by Alan Heuer on 7/6/2008
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7/6/2008 9:22:53 AM
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roy
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And, as I've said elsewhere, you can still vote Interzone a semi prozine Hugo, if you feel its deserved, until midnight 7th July.
You don't appear to have voted in that or the editor categories.
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7/6/2008 9:30:17 AM
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Thomas R
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I think that's a good idea even if it didn't deserve it. Locus needs to lose once. Losing might shake them up a bit or something.
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"Men fear death as children fear to go in the dark; and as that natural fear in children is increased by tales, so is the other." Francis Bacon
"Gummy Bears, gummy bears don't spread darkness and death!... Do they?" Tom Servo MST3K
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7/6/2008 9:54:47 AM
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Bill Moonroe
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Is anyone going?
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"A thagizer? What's that do? Hey, what's this button for? Uh-oh. Sorry about that, man. It'll grow back, right?"
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7/6/2008 9:22:12 PM
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gdozois
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For novel, I would vote:
BRASYL
THE YIDDISH POLICEMAN"S UNION
HALTING STATE
Likely winner: Scalzi
Wasn't wildly enthusiastic about any of the novellas, although I didn't dislike any of them. Guess I'd vote:
Kress
Rusch
Wolfe
Likely winner: Kress
Best category is novelette. I'd vote for
"Finisterra"
"Glory" (although there's only a whisker between these two, and some days I'd put "Glory" first instead)
"The Merchant and the Alchemist's Gate"
Likely winner: Chiang
short story:
"Who's Afraid of Wolf 359?"
"Last Contact"
"Tideline."
Likely winner: Swanwick
Would vote for Gordon in editor, although Ellen has a very good chance as well.
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7/6/2008 9:24:03 PM
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gdozois
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By the way, Thomas, LOCUS has lost for Best Semiprozine at least once already, maybe twice. The year I remember for sure, it lost to SF CHRONICLE, back when Andy Porter was editing it.
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7/6/2008 9:24:50 PM
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Susan
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Still have to put my final ballot in, but I've sorted all the fiction categories (tough choices in novelette and novella, but I thought short story was weak) and blogged the whole process in gory detail over the last few days at <a href="http://www.rixosous.com">Rixosous</a>.
Novel: Halting State
Novella: "Recovering Apollo 8"
Novelette: "The Cambist and Lord Iron"
Short: "Last Contact"
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7/6/2008 10:50:47 PM
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Thomas R
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gdozois wrote:
By the way, Thomas, LOCUS has lost for Best Semiprozine at least once already, maybe twice. The year I remember for sure, it lost to SF CHRONICLE, back when Andy Porter was editing it.
You're right. In 1994 Science Fiction Chronicle won and in the following year Interzone won. The third time was the 2005 Hugo for best semiprozine which went to Ansible. So I guess it wasn't even that long ago they had a loss.
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"Men fear death as children fear to go in the dark; and as that natural fear in children is increased by tales, so is the other." Francis Bacon
"Gummy Bears, gummy bears don't spread darkness and death!... Do they?" Tom Servo MST3K
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7/7/2008 7:57:45 AM
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Rich Horton
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My votes, to a point. (I will confess that I used the No Award option ahead of some of the nominees, though I won't say which -- oh heck, of course I put No Award ahead of Rollback!) (But just because I list the top three only in other categories doesn't mean I voted No Award fourth, though I do think more people should vote No Award ahead of stories they think aren't worthy of a Hugo. (And, for technical reasons, you should not list any story after No Award.))
Novel:
1. Chabon
2. McDonald
3. Stross
Novella:
1. Wolfe
2. Shepard
3. Kress
though like Gardner I was not enthusiastic about the category.
Novelette: again I agree with Gardner, clearly the best category:
1. Moles
2. Abraham
3. Egan (Dark Integers)
4. Chiang
5. Egan (Glory)
The first 4 votes there are a virtual tie.
Short Story:
1. MacLeod
2. Bear
3. Baxter
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7/7/2008 10:01:51 AM
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gdozois
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I liked "Lighting Out" better than "Who's Afraid of Wolf 359?" too (although I very much like "Who's Afraid of Wolf 359?"), but it wasn't on the ballot.
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7/7/2008 8:21:04 PM
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Rich Horton
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My favorite Ken MacLeod story this year was actually "Jesus Christ, Reanimator", but that too failed to make the ballot. I did like "Who's Afraid of Wolf 359?" more than "Lighting Out" however.
Fabrice: I do think by the way that the Willis, Resnick, and Swanwick stories are all (considerably) less than their best work. And for me the three best novellas of the year were "Muse of Fire", "The Master Miller's Tale" (Ian MacLeod), and Elizabeth Hand's Illyria.
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7/7/2008 9:27:12 PM
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gdozois
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None of which made the ballot. <g>
Wasn't crazy about "Jesus Christ, Reanimator," which to me was a slipstream or fantasy story. Both the other MacLeods were solid science fiction.
I stand by my guesses as to what's going to win. It's not a What I'd Like To See Win list, mind, but my best guess as to what's probably going to win.
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7/7/2008 9:48:57 PM
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Rich Horton
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I have no argument with your "Who Will Win" choices, Gardner, though I think Chabon might surprise people, especially after the Nebula win. And, odd as it seems to me, Sawyer is tremendously popular with Hugo voters, and Rollback, while not very good at all, is still better than some of his winners.
And while Kress probably is the favorite in novella, neither Rusch nor Willis would surprise me. Likewise, Resnick wouldn't surprise me in Short Story.
I do think Chiang is close to a lock for the novelette win. Though the last time I said that I'm pretty sure I was wrong!
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7/7/2008 10:03:20 PM
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gdozois
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Chabon's got a chance, I suppose. We also shouldn't forget that Scalzi has a huge online audience.
Think most of the rest may come out the way I called them, but we'll see. The Swanwick story just won the Locus Award, which might be an indication.
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7/7/2008 10:33:18 PM
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Alan Heuer
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Rich Horton wrote:
I have no argument with your "Who Will Win" choices, Gardner, though I think Chabon might surprise people, especially after the Nebula win. And, odd as it seems to me, Sawyer is tremendously popular with Hugo voters, and Rollback, while not very good at all, is still better than some of his winners.
I don't dispute that Sawyer is popular with Hugo voters. But he's had ONE Hugo win, and that was at a Canadian worldcon. Prior to this year, he's had seven Hugo finalists for Best Novel. Aside from his win, he's had one 3rd-place finish, three 4th-place finishes, and two 5th-place finishes.
Don't rule out Stross, who has finished second for Best Novel each of the last two years.
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7/7/2008 10:49:19 PM
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gdozois
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The fact is, in most of these races, there's almost nobody who can be safely ruled out. It could still go any number of ways.
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7/7/2008 11:07:12 PM
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Alan Heuer
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gdozois wrote:
The fact is, in most of these races, there's almost nobody who can be safely ruled out. It could still go any number of ways.
Yeah. To me, one of the biggest surprises was when J.K. Rowling won (and by a good margin!) for Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire. Because the previous year Prisoner of Azkaban had made the final ballot and finished dead last. It has always puzzled me how these two books got such differing results in Hugo voting. Actually I do think Goblet of Fire is the somewhat better book, but I suspect that just about as many people prefer Prisoner of Azkaban as the other way around.
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7/7/2008 11:16:58 PM
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gdozois
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I must admit that I haven't read either; I find Rowling the prose stylist very difficult to read. For what it's worth, though, I thought that the MOVIE version of PRISONER OF AZKABAN was far superior to the movie version of GOBLET OF FIRE.
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7/7/2008 11:29:08 PM
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Rich Horton
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Alan, you make a good point about Sawyer -- perhaps he has a dedicated core of enthusiasts who nominate him, but not broad support across the voter pool.
I think Goblet of Fire won partly as an award to the whole series to that point, and partly because (as I recall) the rest of the nominees weren't knock out brilliant. (There was a good Nalo Hopkinson novel that I suspect wasn't that widely seen, a good Ken MacLeod novel that again probably wasn't as widely seen as some -- his reputation was still in development -- a very bad Sawyer novel, one of his worst, and the second (I think?) in Martin's long fantasy series, which some (I raise my hand here) may not have read because they were unwilling to invest in a very long fantasy series.) I recall thinking Goblet of Fire not really the right choice among the books in her series to win, but not a bad choice if one was to win. (And it was certainly NOT the first YA book to win, nor the first Fantasy, nor the first by an author not that connected to the SF field -- all reasons the award was criticized.)
For the record, I found the Harry Potter books very enjoyable, despite clear shortcomings in her prose.
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7/7/2008 11:30:28 PM
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Thomas R
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Alan Heuer wrote:
I don't dispute that Sawyer is popular with Hugo voters. But he's had ONE Hugo win, and that was at a Canadian worldcon. Prior to this year, he's had seven Hugo finalists for Best Novel. Aside from his win, he's had one 3rd-place finish, three 4th-place finishes, and two 5th-place finishes.
Don't rule out Stross, who has finished second for Best Novel each of the last two years.
I think for Rich that's one too many. From the criticism I've read by him he has a pretty strong dislike for him as a writer. It makes me perversely curious to try Sawyer to see what's so terrible. (Or what's so good as he's won many awards and Horton's taste are very different than mine)
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"Men fear death as children fear to go in the dark; and as that natural fear in children is increased by tales, so is the other." Francis Bacon
"Gummy Bears, gummy bears don't spread darkness and death!... Do they?" Tom Servo MST3K
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