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10/29/2009 3:13:54 PM
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Lukas Jackson
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Think about it. During the Cold War, communism was neatly contained and labelled as the enemy in the Warsaw Pact. After the Gipper, the walls were broken down and now we have incipient socialism/communism throughout the West.
Ronald Reagan was the Devil.
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10/29/2009 4:37:59 PM
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madoc
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Lukas,
Oh dear! If the Gipper was the Devil and if, through his devilishness, he loosed such evils throughout the West - then what does that make Obama? Oh my! You're saying that Obama is Communist? Oh dear, Lukas! You have uttered an unpleasantness that the Obamabots are most unhappy with. I fear you'll soon be sent to one of their reeducation camps so you can learn your proper PC thoughtspeak. You are doubleplus ungood Lukas. Doubleplus ungood.
Madoc
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10/29/2009 5:12:42 PM
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Jeffhaas
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Trickle-down Reaganomics was a secret Communist plot to destroy capitalism that almost succeeded under George W. Bush. Obama is merely repairing the damage, as evidenced by today's GDP numbers.
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10/29/2009 5:22:29 PM
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Madison
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Run for the hills! COMMUNISM!one.
Every American is scared of socialism for some reason. Dude, your police force and public schools are socialized, making them that dreaded communism. Technically you could become more American by privatizing public schools, selectively educating the population, and letting the big bad corporations run the police. Anything but the communism, say the Americans.
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10/29/2009 5:46:09 PM
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Dr. Sardonicus
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The art of "beasting" (obtaining 666, the "number of the Beast" from a person's name, etc) has been around a long time, probably since the Book of Revelation became extant. There's probably some way to beast anyone's name, or most any word or phrase, so the significance of doing so may not be great. See 666 for a boatload of examples. As that site points out, the Book of Revelation was written in Greek, and the Greek "gematria" of the name Nero is 666.
One method of "beasting" Reagan is to write out his full name, RONALD WILSON REAGAN, and count the number of letters in each name: 6,6,6. What could be simpler?
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10/29/2009 6:02:44 PM
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T Radigan
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Dr. Sardonicus wrote:
The art of "beasting" (obtaining 666, the "number of the Beast" from a person's name, etc) has been around a long time, probably since the Book of Revelation became extant. There's probably some way to beast anyone's name, or most any word or phrase, so the significance of doing so may not be great. See 666 for a boatload of examples. As that site points out, the Book of Revelation was written in Greek, and the Greek "gematria" of the name Nero is 666. One method of "beasting" Reagan is to write out his full name, RONALD WILSON REAGAN, and count the number of letters in each name: 6,6,6. What could be simpler?
I remember many years ago, when Martin Gardner was at IASFM, he wrote an article on this very subject, and he was able to indicate it was perfectly possible to "beast" anybody's name with a little creativity.
edited by T Radigan on 10/29/2009
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10/29/2009 6:10:35 PM
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hal maclean
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I remember reading a story once that speculated McCarthy was a communist agent who used his red baiting to undermine America's core values and to erode its reputation with its allies. I think it was on one of the "Alternate" books, not sure which one.
Wasn't it the John Birch society who claimed Eisenhower was a communist plant?
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10/29/2009 8:25:01 PM
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pc
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Madison writes,
Dude, your police force and public schools are socialized
Not really.
They are municipal. Local community functions.
As such, they are among the best-run things that government does.
However, the more the states, and now the Feds, meddle with those schools, the more wretched, costly, and ineffective they've become.
(According to their own directors and advocates! Hence, the every-two-year dire appeals for even more billions in funding.)
Yes, I know, decades ago the Feds stepped in to halt terrible and unjust racial discrimination in Alabama/southern schools. Even the Feds get things right occasionally. 
The police are not (yet) nationalized, and thus are much more respected, accountable, and effective.
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10/29/2009 10:11:58 PM
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Byron Bailey
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In regards to beasting, unless 666 is a reference to the number of tentacles one possesses, it's meaningless. When I was a kid, I've had people who did their best to keep me from playing Dungeons and Dragons in part because the highest score you could roll for a character attribute using three six sided dice was 6-6-6: 18. My parents even tried to get my brothers and I to play this pathetic "Christian" role-playing game called DragonRaid where you swoop like Vikings from your Christian refuge in the north, kidnap demon worshipers minding their own business down south and bring them back up North for brainwashing. Another soul saved! It may sound like I'm being ironic, but I kid you not. Kidnapping people in the name of the Lord was exactly what DragonRaid was about.
edited by Byron Bailey on 10/29/2009
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10/29/2009 10:50:56 PM
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Kevin C.
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Dr. Sardonicus wrote:
The art of "beasting" (obtaining 666, the "number of the Beast" from a person's name, etc) has been around a long time, probably since the Book of Revelation became extant. There's probably some way to beast anyone's name, or most any word or phrase, so the significance of doing so may not be great. See 666 for a boatload of examples. As that site points out, the Book of Revelation was written in Greek, and the Greek "gematria" of the name Nero is 666. One method of "beasting" Reagan is to write out his full name, RONALD WILSON REAGAN, and count the number of letters in each name: 6,6,6. What could be simpler?
A name having a number doesn't carry well into English. Our closest equivalent is Roman numerals and digits above 9 in hexadecimal. In other languages where letters could double as numbers, one's name very well could also be interpreted as a numeral.
That said, from the time Revelation was passed around the churches, you had people trying to calculate the number of various people to see if they were the Beast. Finally one church elder pretty much said "Knock it off, guys."
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10/30/2009 7:23:06 AM
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Jeffhaas
Posts 1939
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"Knock it off, guys."
We need some courageous ministers to do the same today.
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10/30/2009 12:33:51 PM
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Kevin C.
Posts 1089
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Jeffhaas wrote:
We need some courageous ministers to do the same today.
You say that as though no one does. They do. But which do you think makes the bigger headlines: Minister Says No One Knows the Identity of the AntiChrist, or Minister says Noted Politician Is the AntiChrist?
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10/30/2009 5:59:51 PM
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AspE
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...Actually , Johnny Lydon is the Antichrist !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Look - he SAID so , back in '76...........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQkActP-isE
edited by AspE on 10/30/2009
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10/30/2009 9:57:13 PM
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Dr. Sardonicus
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T Radigan wrote:
I remember many years ago, when Martin Gardner was at IASFM, he wrote an article on this very subject, and he was able to indicate it was perfectly possible to "beast" anybody's name with a little creativity.
Oh, the 6-6-6 from Reagan's name wasn't enough, eh? Well, consider this: After leaving the White House in 1989, the Reagans moved to a house in the Bel Air neighborhood of Los Angeles. Its address was 666 St. Cloud Drive. (The Reagans had the address changed to 668.) It's proof -- proof, I tell you!
;-)
I, too, am aquainted with Martin Gardner's writing on the "number of the beast." His piece "The Mysterious Dr. Matrix" in the 2nd Scientific American Book of Mathematical Puzzles and Diversions, which seems to have been from a 1959 "Mathematical Games" column in Scientific American, has some stuff about 666. One of the biblio references in the book for that section is "The number of the beast" in Budget of Paradoxes by Augustus de Morgan.
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10/31/2009 10:32:27 AM
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T Radigan
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Dr. Sardonicus wrote:
T Radigan wrote: I remember many years ago, when Martin Gardner was at IASFM, he wrote an article on this very subject, and he was able to indicate it was perfectly possible to "beast" anybody's name with a little creativity. Oh, the 6-6-6 from Reagan's name wasn't enough, eh? Well, consider this: After leaving the White House in 1989, the Reagans moved to a house in the Bel Air neighborhood of Los Angeles. Its address was 666 St. Cloud Drive. (The Reagans had the address changed to 668.) It's proof -- proof, I tell you! ;-) I, too, am aquainted with Martin Gardner's writing on the "number of the beast." His piece "The Mysterious Dr. Matrix" in the 2nd Scientific American Book of Mathematical Puzzles and Diversions, which seems to have been from a 1959 "Mathematical Games" column in Scientific American, has some stuff about 666. One of the biblio references in the book for that section is "The number of the beast" in Budget of Paradoxes by Augustus de Morgan.
Not to mention Playboy magazine:
Playboy Enterprises, Inc. occupies the top office floors of 680 N. Lake Shore Drive (formerly 666 N. Lake Shore Drive) in Chicago's Streeterville neighborhood
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10/31/2009 11:14:31 AM
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Lukas Jackson
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And not to mention the Reagans' use of pagan witchcraft like astrology.
Could it be... Satan?
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10/31/2009 12:31:19 PM
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T Radigan
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Lukas Jackson wrote:
And not to mention the Reagans' use of pagan witchcraft like astrology.
Could it be... Satan?
Maybe, but I do remember when the news was revealed, a lot of people were hoping that the next President would keep the astrologer. 
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11/1/2009 4:48:46 AM
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AVorlon
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As far as I’m concerned, Nancy Reagan was revealed as an igronant twit when it turned out that she was basing important decisions, or at least influencing them, based on astrology.
I somehow grew up with the idea that our leaders had to be smarter than they let on, and maybe there really was some sort of secret society of highly intelligent people who were actually running things.
Imagine my dismay, then, when I got older and wiser and realized that these people were basing decisions on things as unscientific as astrology or numerology.
I even worked in an office building recently that didn’t have a 13th floor.
They actually had two fourth floors, and one of them was the fourth floor mezanine, not to be confused with the real fourth floor.
My point is that obsolete ideas about 666 and other ridiculous ideas like astrology and anti-christs can’t go away fast enough for me.
edited by AVorlon on 11/1/2009
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11/1/2009 6:32:19 AM
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Thomas R
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You know it seems like there was some Right-wing Fundamentalist type who wrote a book trying to figure out who would be the Antichrist and came to the conclusion of Reagan. What was weird about that is he liked Reagan so in his theory Reagan was going to be "inhabited" by the Antichrist at some point and then lead to the Apocalypse. Unfortunately I don't remember where I read that so can't seem to find it.
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11/1/2009 7:20:16 AM
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Kevin C.
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Yup. I remember one who made a big deal about a rumor that a leader had given Reagan a white horse. No explanation of why that was supposedly significant.
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